Teach Tom
A podcast where Tom Preston-Werner, founder of GitHub, learns things he probably already knows.
Each episode, Sam Odio drags in a world-class expert to teach Tom something new.
Wes McKinney
The Creator Of Pandas Has Burned 5.7 Billion Tokens. Last Week. Here’s His Setup.
Wes made pandas — the Python library, not the animal. These days he averages 817 million tokens a day across Claude and Codex. Tom pretends this is all perfectly normal.
Peter · OpenClaw
OpenClaw Pro Mode, With The Guy Who Built It
Peter built OpenClaw. He shows Tom the pro-mode features most users never touch. Sam, who shipped his entire startup on OpenClaw before ever meeting Peter, is finally catching up.
Jesse Vincent
Superpowers: The Framework That Made Its Creator Stop Coding
Jesse built Superpowers — the open-source framework most AI coding agents now run on. He hasn’t personally written a line of code since October 2025. Tom asks if that’s the goal or the warning.
Hosts
Sam Odio — Host. Two-time founder turned unemployed. Previously: Facebook, Fivestars ($320M exit), Dropbox AI Labs. Currently: this podcast.
Tom Preston-Werner — Student. Co-founded GitHub, invented Gravatar, wrote the first Jekyll. Knows, by most measures, an enormous amount. On this podcast, he does not.